Nisaa's plentiful questions thread

I dunno, i an just tell when it works on your conscience then i'd go repeat it just to feel better, so

I'm confused about the times when we can't pray salaah:

After sunrise like until the sun has fully risen
When the sun is at its peak
Asr.. after Asr salaah that's like when the sky is yellowy
As the sun sets ^^ or are them the same?

And that's it?

If we have to do qadha like if I wanna pray them ones I mentioned in the posts, can I pray them then or no salaah whatsoever? And the prostrations of tilaawah, at them times, can they be done or no? In that article posted here at DI I read you can't do it at sunrise or sunset... is it a form of salaah that's why?

33x Alhamdulillah
33x Subhanallah
33x Allahu Akbar

After salaah is that sahih or no?

And you know in sujood if you just kind of make a dua in your head but you don't say anything are you allowed to do that?

I asked my little cousin and she said she's doing hanafi fiqh and then something like in the fourth fifth class she's gonna do all 4? So you can learn them all together then?

I must make another rujoo' now, with regards to making du'aa after salaah, don't make it a habit to make it after the fardh every single time, you can make it at times after the sunnah/nafl, and sometimes you can make it after leaving your musalla.

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After sunrise like until the sun has fully risen
When the sun is at its peak

Yep you can't make at those times.

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Asr.. after Asr salaah that's like when the sky is yellowy

Not exactly no, you can make asr right up until and into maghrib, but it is makrooh to do that, your salaah will be valid but it's makrooh to do so, and to so purposely is the salaah of the munaafiq as mentioned in the hadeeth.

The law is after you made your fardh of asr then you cannot make any salaah, so if you made asr when it's time just came in then youu cannot make salaah from then on, and if you made during its last time then you cannot make from then onwards until the time of maghrib.

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As the sun sets ^^ or are them the same?

It's the same.

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If we have to do qadha like if I wanna pray them ones I mentioned in the posts, can I pray them then or no salaah whatsoever?

Nope no salaah at all, you can make them at any other time, like during the morning after sunrise and the rest of the day.

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And the prostrations of tilaawah, at them times, can they be done or no? In that article posted here at DI I read you can't do it at sunrise or sunset... is it a form of salaah that's why?

hmmm i don't know, but if the article says no then you should go with it.

The reason it would be forbidden is because the sun worshippers used to worship the sun at that time, and of their worship was prostrating to the sun, salaah has been forbidden to make during those times for that reason, that would be why they sajdah tilaawah cannot be made either.

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33x Alhamdulillah
33x Subhanallah
33x Allahu Akbar

After salaah is that sahih or no?

As i said previously, i am unsure which one is after salaah and which one is the one before bed, you need to find that out first. but yes they are saheeh.

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And you know in sujood if you just kind of make a dua in your head but you don't say anything are you allowed to do that?

I do not know, why don't you make du'aa out of salaah?

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I asked my little cousin and she said she's doing hanafi fiqh and then something like in the fourth fifth class she's gonna do all 4? So you can learn them all together then?

Where is she studying? at a madrassah or a college? what you mean fourth fifth class? do mean in the 4th or fifth year?

Okay that's cool. I'll answer later.

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As i said previously, i am unsure which one is after salaah and which one is the one before bed, you need to find that out first. but yes they are saheeh.

thats tasbeeh-e-Fatima, right? i think ive read that its before bed, but im not too sure...

here: Ali Ibn Abi Talib RA reported that when the Prophet's daughter, Fatima came to him and asked him for a servant, he said to her and Ali: “Shall I not teach you something that will be better for you than a servant? When you go to bed, say 'SubhanAllah' thirty-three times, 'Al-hamdulillah' thirty-three times, and
'Allahu Akbar' thirty-four times. This is better for you than a servant.” [Saheeh al-Bukharee and Saheeh Muslim]

Quick questionnnnnnn!

Can this be worn.. it has butterflies on it, except no eyes, it's just prints of butterflies.. and in salaah except it was covered... cause you wore something over it..

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Can this be worn.. it has butterflies on it, except no eyes, it's just prints of butterflies.. and in salaah except it was covered... cause you wore something over it..

In that case it can be worn, and the salaah will be valid.

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In that case it can be worn, and the salaah will be valid.

which case?
the no eyes part or the covered part?

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thats tasbeeh-e-Fatima, right? i think ive read that its before bed, but im not too sure...

here: Ali Ibn Abi Talib RA reported that when the Prophet's daughter, Fatima came to him and asked him for a servant, he said to her and Ali: “Shall I not teach you something that will be better for you than a servant? When you go to bed, say 'SubhanAllah' thirty-three times, 'Al-hamdulillah' thirty-three times, and
'Allahu Akbar' thirty-four times. This is better for you than a servant.” [Saheeh al-Bukharee and Saheeh Muslim]

So that one is done before going to bed then?

That means the other one is done after salaah.

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In that case it can be worn, and the salaah will be valid.

which case?
the no eyes part or the covered part?

The covered part.

Note this is my opinion, i do not know the ruling on it: I don't think it's to do with eyes per se, it's to do with it not being a picture/statue, i suppose by removing the eyes it is as if you are removing a fundamental part of it, like if you remove a head of something then no doubt it is fine, because Rasoolullaah Sallalaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam done that, but butterflies have such small eyes, and moles have no eyes, so what must you do about them?

That's why i went with the part that it was covered, if it is covered then it is permissable even if the thing did have eyes on it.

And Allaah knows best.

Hmm..

=(

I guess it's best getting rid of it though, huh? So much nice stuff.. Oh well. =/

for everything else. Now can someone update the Sunnah Revival thread with all the new ones please?

And I never make dua after the fardh of salaah... so that's what I'm saying can I just continue making after nalf or sunnah if I want to?

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And I never make dua after the fardh of salaah... so that's what I'm saying can I just continue making after nalf or sunnah if I want to?

yep

Yaaaay my thread is 13 pages! 13 whole pages of questions and answers and some random dinosaur talk but wow!

^_^

No one asks me questions though.. =(

Can we make my thread the longest on Darul Ilm? Yes we can!

umm.. I read somewhere.. here.. that you should pray the 3 quls after salaah.. can you? Is it a confirmed soild concrete sunnah ..

And I heard that the 99 names of Allah that have been printed and everyone knows them.. they aren't the real 99 names of Allah? I think you can get them printed in the back of a mushaf but I dunno.. I think he said ones usually from India and Pakistan.. =s

and.. okay.. say I want to recite Qur'an daily and I set aside some time like after Asr.. daily, if I always do that would that be wrong or would that be okay? Am I just getting confused about about where bidah comes in to play? Because I can't seem to draw a line.. so I want to understand so I'm not always questioning everything I do..

Same with dua if I just want to make dua and I usually make a dua at a certain time in the day can I do that always or do I have to switch it around so it's not considered like a ritual..

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And you know in sujood if you just kind of make a dua in your head but you don't say anything are you allowed to do that?

I do not know, why don't you make du'aa out of salaah?

Where is she studying? at a madrassah or a college? what you mean fourth fifth class? do mean in the 4th or fifth year?

Because I want to make dua in sujood.. =( Because it's the closet you are to Allah.. and I want my duas accepted..

She goes madrassah.. but I think it'd be a bit difficult.. so I dunno..

What about if you wanna make dua before salaam in salaah, another one aside from the one you normally recite.. do you just recite it after?


don't laugh at me.. but you know when memorising a surah or an ayah that has a prostration in it.. do you just keep track of how many times you've recited it and then make them later or what do you do... ? =(

I wasn't at home today, not far like 2 hours or so away, anyhow someone said to me after I'd finished that I should have prayed travelers salaah 'cause I wasn't at home... ?

What's the distance.. like how far away do I have to be... =s

I assume if I have time and space it's better to make the full salaah?

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I wasn't at home today, not far like 2 hours or so away, anyhow someone said to me after I'd finished that I should have prayed travelers salaah 'cause I wasn't at home... ?

What's the distance.. like how far away do I have to be... =s

I assume if I have time and space it's better to make the full salaah?

77 km and you were around 160 km away so yup, itd be qasr salaah

about your last question, from what i were taught, fardh salaah would be halved (4 to 2) and the others (2 fardh) just as normal....
but timewise, the fardh should still not be prayed fully...i think...and the sunnah can be prayed if there is suffiecient time but in full, theres no shortening there...

it says here that if the fardh salaah when a musaafir is performed fully then sajdah sahw must be done....as otherwise itd be counted as 2 fardh and 2 nafl...

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?id=1003

Oh.. =( I never knew that.. so I have to repeat my salaah as qadha? =(

But hmm.. okay.. So if I stayed at someone's house who was 77km away from me.. I'd be a musaafir and then my fard salaah's would be halved... ?

but in school when we went on trips! =o We were clearly out of town.. unless 'out of town' means far away 77km.. not literally in another town..

BTW how did you work out how far off we were? =/

How did they calculate 77km though? Is it that proper set in stone or is there difference of opinion.. ?

hm.. I was wondering.. if anyone knows..

you know if unintentionally you miss salaah, or you have to do qadha and you never knew until after, but it isn't your fault, I know that in cases there's no sin on you as you never knew but if you make it up later, do you still get the FULL reward? Like with the eyeliner stuff... =o would I still get full reward.. ? Or half.. =(

Okay before I post this I'm not being up myself or anything like that, I admit I really don't know anything, at all.. but it's regarding the issue about women's salaah.. anyhow I wanted some proper proper evidence about the women's salaah being the same as mens.. and I found this on IslamQA well I read something and then linked to Islam QA:

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Praise be to Allaah.
The way in which women pray is the same as the way in which men pray in every part of the prayer, prostration, sitting, and so on. This is based on the following evidence:

1 – The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Pray as you have seen me praying.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari. This is addressed to both men and woman.

Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Everything that we have said above about the way in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) prayed applies equally to men and women. There is nothing narrated in the Sunnah which implies that women are exempted from any of that. Rather the general meaning of the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “Pray as you have seen me praying,” include women too.

Sifat Salaat al-Nabi, p. 189

2 – The general meaning of the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “Women are the twin halves of men.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 204; al-Tirmidhi, 105, from the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah. Also narrated by al-Daarimi, 764, from the hadeeth of Anas.

Al-‘Ajlooni said: Ibn Qattaan said: The isnaad from ‘Aa’ishah is da’eef (weak), but the isnaad from Anas is saheeh (sound).

Kashf al-Khafa’, 1/248

Al-Khattaabi said: What we understand from this is: If something is said in the masculine, it is addressed to women too, except in cases where there is evidence to indicate that it applies only to women.

Some of the scholars said that a woman should not sit as a man sits (in prayer), and they quoted two da’eef (weak) hadeeths as evidence for that.

Al-Bayhaqi said:

Two da’eef hadeeth were narrated concerning that, the like of which cannot be taken as evidence.

The first is the hadeeth of ‘Ata’ ibn al-‘Ajlaan from Abu Nadrah al-‘Abdi from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri, the companion of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), that he used to command the men to spread out their arms in their prostration and he used to tell the women to keep their arms close to their sides in their prostration. He used to tell the men to spread their left foot along the ground (and sit on it) and place the right foot upright during the tashahhud and he used to tell the women to sit, kneeling, on their heels.” Then al-Bayyhaqi said: This is a munkar hadeeth.

The other is the hadeeth of Abu Mutee’ al-Hakam ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Balkhi from ‘Umar ibn Dharr from Mujaahid from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When a woman sits during the prayer she should place one thigh against the other and when she prostrates she should press her stomach against her thighs, compressing herself in the most concealing manner, for Allaah looks at her and says: ‘O My angels, I call you to bear witness that I have forgiven her.’” Sunan al-Bayhaqi al-Kubra, 2/222.

This hadeeth is da’eef, because it was narrated by Abu Mutee’ al-Balkhi.

Ibn Hajar said:

Ibn Mu’een said: He is nothing. On one occasion he said: He is da’eef. Al-Bukhaari said: He is da’eef. Al-Nasaa’i said: He is da’eef. Lisaan al-Mizaan, 2/334.

Ibn ‘Adiyy said: It is clear that Abu Mutee’ is da’eef in his ahaadeeth and everything that he narrated, and for most of his narrations there are no corroborating reports.

Al-Kaamil fi Du’afa’ al-Rijaal, 2/214

A third hadeeth was narrated from Yazeed ibn Abi Habeeb, saying that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) passed by two women who were praying. He said: “When you prostrate, press some of your flesh to the ground, for women are not like men in that.”

This was narrated by Abu Dawood in al-Maraaseel (p. 118) and by al-Bayhaqi (2/223).

This hadeeth is mursal, which is a category of da’eef (weak).

In al-Musannaf (1/242), Ibn Abi Shaybah narrated some reports from some of the salaf which suggest that there is a difference in the way women and men sit (in prayer), but the only evidence that counts is the words of Allaah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Then he narrated from some of the salaf that the way in which men and women pray is the same.

Al-Bukhaari (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Umm al-Darda’ used to sit in prayer as a man sits and she was a scholarly woman.

Al-Haafiz stated in Fath al-Baari that Abu’l-Darda’ had two wives, both of whom were called Umm al-Darda’. The older one was a Sahaabiyyah and the younger one was a Taabi’iyyah. He suggested that the one who was referred to here by al-Bukhaari was the younger one.

See also the answer to question no. 38162.

And Allaah knows best.

=/ I have a question. Those that do follow the hanafi way of praying their salaah and they know this, they know that the hadith are regarded weak by scholars now, if they continue would that not be a mistake? Wouldn't you say that you should follow this opinion?

all that is mentioned in that article is answered here

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?ID=1311

includes the weak hadeeth mentioned there but from different narrators...and is in more detail.