Nisaa's plentiful questions thread

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:40 pm

with regards to the first bit, ill find some information about that inshallah, jus got exams at the moment so kinda occupied.

When a student of knowledge goes on his path to seek knowledge, what the Ulema and knowledgable people advise is that from a young age, just get them to MEMORISE. Start with the Quran, memorise the Quran, hadith, rulings etc, they dont have to know what it means, or anything like that, just memorise, cos at that age, is the age where the mind is the sharpest and its easier to memorise things.
As you grow older then you can go on to UNDERSTANDING the stuff you memorise and putting it into application.

As for learning arabic, then defo go for it, many scholars actually say its WAAJIB (obligatory) to learn it, because our deen is in arabic pretty much. (i.e. quran/hadeeth, are all in arabic and when you translate you lose some of the meanings or essence).
So i would definitely advise learning arabic, in fact one of the 4 imams considered it MAKROOH to speak long periods of time in a language other then arabic affraid

When you learn arabic, you begin to understand the meanings of the Quran, and that is soooo beautiful because your concentration in your prayers multiplies like 100 times, and you listen with devotion.
The more advances you get into arabic, the more youll understand classical books of fiqh/hadith etc from scholars of the past.

Is you is understanding me? cheers

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Ibn K - thats a good post, mashAllah.

Nisaa - sajdah sahw...ive read the previous posts, and im a bit confuzzled as to what youre asking in your last post...but from what i were taught (according to the Hanafi madhab)...it is waajib to perform the sajdah after certain omissions/delays are made within the salaah...
and you finish your original salaah with ONE salaam, not the usual two...say Allahu Akbar and do two sajdahs then when in qa'ada (sitting position)recite the tashahud, durood and duaa after durood then do the two salaam on either side and finish.

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:37 am

Okay.. I think I'm looking at too many other opinions than sticking to the one in the madhab I follow... I don't mean to question things... it just happens..

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:45 pm

How many tajweed mistakes that are made (accidentally) are okay that won't break the salah? Because I pay too much attention and find myself thinking I'm making more mistakes. I did not have this problem before until I began concentrating more on my tajweed rather than the meanings. I would like to ponder on the meanings to gain khushoo, however I cannot seem to go back to how I was before... This issue is bugging me greatly whether my salah's are accepted or not.

- Elf.

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:12 pm

And I also wonder why the transliteration of Arabic is spelt without any tajweed. Like using 'z' for 'dh' and the likes, surely that would change the meaning? I'll give you an example:

A'uzu billahi minashaitanir rajim

What does that mean? Or does the meaning remain the same?

- Elf.

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:57 am

"رَبِّ اغْفِرْ لِي رَبِّ اغْفِرْ لِي".
48. Rabbighfir lee, Rabbighfir lee.
Lord, forgive me. My Lord, forgive me.
Reference: Abu Dawud 1/231. See also Al-Albani, Sahihibn Mdjah 1/148.

"اللَّهُمَّ اغْفِرْ لِي، وَارْحَمْنِي، وَاهْدِنِي، وَاجْبُرْنِي، وَعَافِنِي، وَارْزُقْنِي، وَارْفَعْنِي".
49. Allaahum-maghfir lee, warhamnee, wahdinee, wajburnee, wa 'aafinee, warzuqnee, warfa'nee.
O Allah forgive me, have mercy on me, guide me, support me, protect me, provide for me and elevate me.
Reference: Abu Dawud, Ibn Majah, At-Tirmithi. See also Al-Albani, Sahih At-Tirmithi 1/90 and Sahih Ibn Majah 1/148.

Have you got backed up evidence, Admin, for the dua you said was okay to say in between the two sujoods?

Also, is it a requirement or a sunnah, or is there differing opinions?

- Elf.

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Admin's reply thumbs up

Quote :: How many tajweed mistakes that are made (accidentally) are okay thatwon't break the salah?

There is no limit to them, however if you make a mistake which changes themeaning of the aayah then your salaah breaks, or so i've been taught.

Quote :: Because I pay too much attention and find myself thinking I'm making moremistakes. I did not have this problem before until I began concentratingmore on my tajweed rather than the meanings.
I would like to ponder on themeanings to gain khushoo, however I cannot seem to go back to how I wasbefore... This issue is bugging me greatly whether my salah's are acceptedor not.

Don't go back to the way you were before then, eventually you'll be ableto recite properly and concentrate on the words at the same time, it mighttake a while, but your salaah will be correct then,
because the fardhthing in salaah is to recite the qur'aan properly, knowing the meaning ofthe aayaah is not fardh, so once you have perfected the fardh you'll beable to concentrate on the meanings
Inshaa Allaah.

Quote :: And I also wonder why the transliteration of Arabic is spelt without anytajweed. Like using 'z' for 'dh' and the likes, surely that would changethe meaning?

That there is one of my "pet peeves", i cannot stress enough theimportance of proper spelling, many a times i've found peoples'mis-spelling changing a good sentence into a kufr sentence,
but peoplejust don't care, they think i'm being "pedantic" when i correct them onit. However in a case like that i 'suppose' you can say it's another method oftransliteration,
because english doesn't have the words capable ofrepresenting some arabic words. What i accept as valid "difference in translitiration" is like typingAllah or Allaah, Akhee or Akhy or Akhi,
not things like "jazakullah" andthe like.

Quote :: Have you got backed up evidence, Admin, for the dua you said was okay tosay in between the two sujoods?

Aye, the hadeeth is in Abu Daawood, in the chapter of salaah.
Narrated from hadhrat ibn Abbaas Radhiallaahu Anhu that Nabiyy SallallaahuAlayhi Wa Sallam used to say between the two sajdahs "Allaahummaghfirleewar7amnee wa 3aafinee
wahdinee warzuqnee"

Quote :: Also, is it a requirement or a sunnah, or is there differing opinions?

It is Sunnah to the best of my knowledge, i am not aware of any view whichsays it is a requirement. And i remember you asked before whether the du'aa you used to read canalso be read,
i cannot remember exactly which one it is that you read, butif it's any of those which comes from a hadeeth then it's permissable, soyou can say "Rabbighfirlee Rabbighfirlee"
if you want, or you can read theone i mentioned (or that other one too), all of them are perfectly valid to recite.

And Allaah knows best.

(apologies for the typos in the above, thats cus of the way i copy/pasted it and he did include some Arabic which didnt come up properly so i had to remove that)

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:48 pm

Nisaa wrote:: http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/7895/sujood%20sahw

I'm so confused..

=(

Well how come it says there's no proof.. when .. I don't understand. And actually I was reading a hadith some day (not today, I think it was yesterday..) and it was this one;

Narrated 'Abdullah (Radi-Allahu 'anhum):

The Prophet (Sallallahu 'Alaihi Wa Sallam) prayed (and the subnarrator
Ibrahim said, "I do not know whether he prayed more or less than usual"),
and when he had finished the prayers he was asked, "O Allah's Apostle! Has
there been any change in the prayers?" He said, "What is it?' The people
said, "You have prayed so much and so much." So the Prophet (Sallallahu
'Alaihi Wa Sallam) bent his legs, faced the Qibla and performed two
prostrations (of Sahu) and finished his prayers with Tasiim (by turning his
face to right and left saying: 'As-Salamu'Alaikum-Warahmat-ullah'). When he
turned his face to us he said, "If there had been anything changed in the
prayer, surely I would have informed you but I am a human being like you
and liable to forget like you. So if I forget remind me and if anyone of
you is doubtful about his prayer, he should follow what he thinks to be
correct and complete his prayer accordingly and finish it and do two
prostrations (of Sahu)."

Bukhari Vol. 1 : No. 394

So.. help? .. 'cause the Prophet finished his salah and then did the sujoods...

If islamqa said that there's no proof for what i said then that's their shortcoming, if you just open hidaayah to the chapter of sajdah sahw you'll see all the proof plus more, but for me to go type all that out now will take ages, so just ignore what islamqa said and stick to the sites keekee gave you for any questions related to fiqh.

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:50 pm

Ibn Khattab wrote:: There are a number of ways to do the 2 sujoods of forgetfulness. According to the hanafi fiqh its slightly different to the one above tho, altho many hanafi ulema these days follow the opinion above or another opinion which says....

wait let me get it, its recorded in Ibn Qayyum Al Jawziyyahs bool Zaad Al Maad.

hanafis with modern views aren't authorities on the hanafi madhab.

The hanafi way is as i described earlier.

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:53 pm

Nisaa wrote:: Okay.. I think I'm looking at too many other opinions than sticking to the one in the madhab I follow... I don't mean to question things... it just happens..

You are a hanafi, so stick to the hanafi madhab for fiqh, don't bother with islamqa if it says there's no proof for something or that its a weak view etc, that's just their opinion concerning it.

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:55 pm

Can you help me... =(

Which tajweed mistakes invalidate the salah?

Okay those that change the meaning, I don't know because I don't know Arabic, but I got that one down..

How about accidentally prolonging when it's not meant to be? Ohh, why am I finding it so difficult all of a sudden.. my mind just forgets in salah..

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:10 pm

Don't ask questions that will make life difficult for you nono

that's what the jews did until finally they abandoned it nono

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:20 pm

But.. I just .. =(

Ohh I always do the wrong things..

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:34 pm

I do not know what all mistakes break your salaah.

Nisaa you can ask as many questions as you want, i don't mind answering them, you can even ask if dinosaur meat is halaal, it's all fine, but don't ask questions which will make practising your deen difficult.

Say for example i had said that not pronouncing a letter properly breaks your salaah, then if you are unable to recite properly you're going to believe all your salaah is not accepted since you aren't pronouncing it right, and if you are able to recite it right then at times when you just make a mistake then your salaah will break and you'll have to redo it, and so on, so these questions will just make things unnecassarily difficult upon you.

If you want to do something good, then learn how to pronounce the arabic letters properly so that you can read the qur'aan in the way it's meant to be read thumbs up

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:55 pm

I know it's just.. I overthink it and then I get confused and get sad that I keep messing up everything.

But that's just me.. =( I always think too much and I can't help it

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:03 pm

I can see how much you think, i'm not going to tell you not to think, but just don't overthink or think too deeply about things thumbs up

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:10 pm

I couldn't even if I was told to.

I could think about other stuff.. I guess..

but JazakAllahu khair

I realise how I need to stop stressing too much.

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:08 pm

I'm planning on starting a new hanafi fiqh thread from a different kitaab thumbs up

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:17 am

[embarrassment deleted] =P

Ohhh my brain understands... I think =o The time that it says sunrise is the beginning (of sunrise), and you can't pray AFTER that time because it's invalidated... right? So.. it's not anytime before that (even though it's mega bright before =o)?

Why do I get confused so easily. =( I'm such a blonde, I should dye my hair.. =(

You know if you have clothes that have little characters on it, can you not wear them? At all? Babies have cute baby clothes that have fuzzy animals on them.. are we not meant to dress them in that? ahh babies.. sho cute.. love

=o

ohhhhhhh so when it gets lighter whilst Fajr that's dawn! =o The second dawn breaks and Fajr has started and that goes on until sunrise which is when actual light and not white it the sky starts becoming evident, which is the sun! Have I figured this out myself? =o I might be wrong still ...=P

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:51 pm

Quote :: I think =o The time that it says sunrise is the beginning (of sunrise), and you can't pray AFTER that time because it's invalidated... right? So.. it's not anytime before that (even though it's mega bright before =o)?

I don't understand that at all Neutral

Just remember, after you've made the fardh of fajr then you can't make any salaah at all.

Quote :: You know if you have clothes that have little characters on it, can you not wear them? At all? Babies have cute baby clothes that have fuzzy animals on them.. are we not meant to dress them in that? ahh babies.. sho cute.. =o

Aye they shouldn't be dressed in that, but too much childrens clothes ni like that

Quote :: ohhhhhhh so when it gets lighter whilst Fajr that's dawn! =o The second dawn breaks and Fajr has started and that goes on until sunrise which is when actual light and not white it the sky starts becoming evident, which is the sun! Have I figured this out myself? =o I might be wrong still ...=P

You seem to have it right, dawn (subh) and sunrise (tuloo3ish shams) are two different things thumbs up

Your local masjid should have a chart of when sunrise is and stuff.

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:13 pm

Yeah alhamdulillah we do.

I have a question... =o

Okay, do I have to repeat my salah... caaaause you see I dunno I must have been bleeding from a wound (I'm just wounded everywhere... =/ =P) and anyway I didn't notice, but that's okay because if you don't know your salah is still alright, anyway if the blood gets onto your clothes and you realise, like you know but then the next salah time comes you forget... =o do you have to repeat all the salah you've prayed with it on? (as in times gone now I only noticed now. =/) It was just a teeny tiny bit.. =o I'm so forgetful. =(

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:00 pm

You will have to repeat it, likening it to the situation where a person forgets that he doesn't have wudhu and makes salaah, he'll have to repeat it.

So you should just make the qadhaa of the fardh of that salaah which you made with it on.

And Allaah knows.

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:50 pm

^^

Regarding that question... I er.. I prayed the qadha after the salaah I had to pray.. but you aren't meant to do that are you. =( Anyway I remembered today after all that time when reading something.. so had a panic..

What I did was.. I'd already prayed my Dhuhr (then read the thing which made me remember) and then did the qadha of that salaah so it's okay according to:

If you have prayed the current prayer, then you remember a missed prayer from the same day or a previous day, you should pray it, but do not repeat the current prayer, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever forgets a prayer, let him offer it as soon as he remembers, for there is no expiation for it other than that. ‘and perform As‑Salaah (Iqaamat‑as‑Salaah) for My remembrance’ [Ta-Ha 20].” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (597) and Muslim (684).

Islam QA =P

and all the salaah I did before and after that is okay right inshaallah because I didn't know.. I hope so or I proper will cry.

.... is that okay? Was I correct in doing that? Will I get sinned... =( I never knew though.. Like even at school.. teacher once said if you've missed your Fajr pray now.. and that was after Dhuhr.. =( I never thought about it having to be in order..

Was that logical thinking? And also! Now I'm confused... what about qadha e umri? Usually on like QandA websites you're told to make them up after each fardh of a salaah you pray now... AFTER. And we had a discussion on ummah they said ulema have said either before or after your current fardh of salaah is okay to make up qadha e umri. Anyway actually I've just checked it up and it's okay alhamdulillah but tell me how comes it's different?

=/ Now I'm doubting the validity of my other salaahs.. *facepalm*

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:28 pm

ehh you wanna rephrase all that? Rubeyes

Quote :: I prayed the qadha after the salaah I had to pray.. but you aren't meant to do that are you.

Qadha of which salaah? a recent one or an old one? if it's an old one from more than one day ago then there's nothing wrong with it, however if it's a new qadha then you're not supposed to do it that way.

Quote :: Now I'm confused... what about qadha e umri? Usually on like QandA websites you're told to make them up after each fardh of a salaah you pray now... AFTER. And we had a discussion on ummah they said ulema have said either before or after your current fardh of salaah is okay to make up qadha e umri. Anyway actually I've just checked it up and it's okay alhamdulillah but tell me how comes it's different?

Qadha e umri can be made up at any time, before your fardh, after your fardh, or at any time of the day when you want to make it, just not in the forbidden times.

Tell you how come what's different? scratch

Subject: Re: Nisaa's plentiful questions thread Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:38 pm

Let me explain:

Say I missed Fajr... now it's Dhuhr... I HAVE to pray qadha Fajr first... then pray Dhuhr.. but if I forget and remember whilst praying Dhuhr, in the Hanafi fiqh my salaah becomes invalid.. =/ so I gotta pray Fajr qadha first and then Dhuhr but if I forget completely until after I've prayed Dhuhr and then remember then it's okay....

Is that correct or no?

Just clarify for me for future reference.

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