Whats worse? Not praying OR going to "jinns"and "peers" to ask them stuff....(maybe to ask them to help/guide you to a decision/tell you the outcome of something (shirk)?

I heard a lecture on Ash'aris...

hmm..

Positive or negative ^^^?

It was sheikh Abu 'Abdis Salaam, he was talking about the attributes of Allah, and there was a whole part about Ash'aris, but I dunno if I'm being biased cause I dunno about Ash'ari creed from an actual ash'ari, I've just listened to this... he didn't go so into it, but the topic on hand was about the kalaam of Allah, and he mentioned the opinion of the ash'aris and it kinda left me slightly confused... but I don't think I am able to make an opinion due to my complete lack of knowledge. =o

Cause from what Admin has said even in some posts, how do you know what verses to do ta'weel on, so that's what confuses me.

But I dunno, I don't feel fit to discuss stuff like this cause I might say something wrong in ignorance, I just am kinda confused about the ta'weel thing.

I do have a question though, normal people that aren't scholars should they even get into stuff like this? Like I know you gotta learn basic aqeedah but what does this consist of?

No one jump down my throat I already said I don't know anything... =o

hmm..

Okay, if you say 'oh Allah, I will do this thing for you'

Is that an oath? because there's no promise... it's just, I will do this...

And what if you've lost the chance... now what do you do? Do you have to go fulfil it some other way?

Did Allah only create this dunya cause He wanted to send the messenger of Allah ?

I know Allah says he only created us to worship Him, but yesterday I heard if Allah had not willed to place the Prophet in the dunya then we would not have been here either

Correcto?


what's point asking. =( no one's gonna answer anyway.. *sigh*

Maybe this will be of some help?

Quote:

I have got a question regarding a hadiith. How sound is the hadiith, that states, that it were not for Muhammad (saw) Allaah (swt) would not have created this world??? To be honest I am a bit suspicious about this hadiith, could you shatter some light in the matter?. Praise be to Allaah. Many false and fabricated ahaadeeth have been narrated that say similar things. For example: “Were it not for you, I would not have created the universe.” This was quoted by al-Shawkaani in al-Fawaa’id al-Majmoo’ah fi’l-Ahaadeeth al-Mawdoo’ah (p. 326). He said: Al-San’aani said: (it is) mawdoo’ (fabricated). Al-Albaani said in al-Silsilah al-Da’eefah (282): (it is) mawdoo’. Another example is the hadeeth narrated by al-Haakim according to which Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “Allaah revealed to ‘Eesa (Jesus, peace be upon him): ‘O ‘Eesa, believe in Muhammad, and tell whoever you meet of your ummah to believe in him. For were it not for Muhammad, I would not have created Adam, and were it not for Muhammad, I would not have created Paradise and Hell. I created the Throne over the water and it would not settle until I wrote on it, Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah Muhammad Rasool Allaah (There is no god but Allaah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allaah).” Al-Haakim said: its isnaad is saheeh! But al-Dhahabi commented on that and said: I believe it is fabricated and falsely attributed to Sa’eed. Meaning, Sa’eed ibn Abu ‘Aroobah (one of the narrators of this hadeeth). This hadeeth was narrated from him by ‘Amr ibn Aws al-Ansaari, who is the one who is accused of fabricating it. Al-Dhahabi mentioned him in al-Meezaan where he said: “He produced a munkar report,” then he quoted this hadeeth, and said, “I believe that it is mawdoo’ (fabricated).” Al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar agreed with him, as it says in al-Lisaan. Al-Albaani said in al-Silsilah al-Da’eefah (280): There is no basis for it. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked: Is the hadeeth which some people quote – “Were it not for you, Allaah would not have created the Throne or the Kursiy or the earth or the heavens or the sun or the moon or anything else” saheeh or nor? He replied: Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is the leader of the sons of Adam, and the best and noblest of creation, hence some people say that Allaah created the universe because of him, or that were it not for him, Allaah would not have created the Throne or the Kursiy or the earth or the heavens or the sun or the moon. But this hadeeth that is narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is neither saheeh (sound) nor da’eef (weak), and it was not narrated by any scholar in a hadeeth from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Neither was it known from the Sahaabah. Rather it is the words of one who is unknown. Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 11/86-96. The Standing Committee was asked: Can it be said that Allaah created the heavens and the earth for the purpose of creating the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? What is the meaning of the hadeeth, “Were it not for you the universe would not have been created,” and does this hadeeth have any basis? They replied: The heavens and the earth were not created for the sake of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), rather they were created for the purpose which Allaah mentions (interpretation of the meaning): “It is Allaah Who has created seven heavens and of the earth the like thereof (i.e. seven). His Command descends between them (heavens and earth), that you may know that Allaah has power over all things, and that Allaah surrounds all things in (His) Knowledge” [al-Talaaq 65:12] As for the hadeeth mentioned, it is falsely attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and has no sound basis. Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 1/312 Shaykh Ibn Baaz was asked about this hadeeth and said: The answer is that this was transmitted from the words of some of the common people who have no understanding. Some people say that the world was created for the sake of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and were it not for Muhammad the world would not have been created and mankind would not have been created. This is false and has no basis, and these are corrupt words. Allaah created the world so that He would be known and worshipped. He created the world and He created mankind so that His names and attributes, His power and knowledge, would be known and so that He alone would be worshipped with no partner or associate, and so that He would be obeyed – not for the sake of Muhammad or for the sake of Nooh or Moosa or ‘Eesa or any other Prophet. Rather Allaah created the universe so that He alone would be worshipped, with no partner or associate. Fataawa Noor ‘ala al-Darb, 46. And Allaah knows best.

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For Allah ('azza wajal) is above His Throne, above His Heavens, separate from His creation, so whoever doesn't know Him like this, then he doesn't know His God Whom he worships (ad-Darimi in 'ar-Rad alal-Jahmiyyah).

Yep, .

Perhaps other scholars say that the hadiths are sahih hence why they use them... I dunno. But, alhamdulillah I read the hadiths and that now so I know where it comes from at least.

Not sure if it's rude to just ask for evidence in class.

But I can't say anything just yet... 1 month trial and if I annoy any teacher I'll be back to square one.

About the oath thing.. I shall get back to you in a few days maybe insha Allah, but I hope there's no need.

If it is an oath, is there a time limit? As long as you fulfill it is it alright?

And, a general oath like 'oh Allah I will change... ' perhaps you aren't involved in any sin, or anything it's just general cause shaytaan whispered to you and said 'your tawbah won't be accepted unless you vow... ' so you did, what exactly do you do then? Since it was so general.. confusing huh. Vows and that shouldn't be made so hastily... right.

You're doing an 'aqeedah book? which one might that be? sharh 'aqeedatun nasafiyyah? or what?

I don't have the kitaab yet. Insha Allah we will get it given to us today.

What is that one I've never heard it.

Okay. I don't think it will be to be honest. Is it like hardcore? haha, like proper in depth and all, not simple? It's a very small kitaab, but maybe we will expand on that as we go through the years?

I'll have a read of the title anyway even if I don't get the book today and write it down for you insha Allah.

No it's supposed to be a very thin kitaab which touches lightly on 'aqeedah.